By - 1XRP
As a reminder, this subreddit
It is why the GOP is pushing hard to take over election boards, so they can do the double counting next time if needed.
They are also bypassing election officials, giving state legislators power to set aside elections when they don’t like the outcome. So voting is merely advisory.
The double counting already favored Trump even lol.
So odd, wont their voters doubt any elections. Why would they vote at all anymore?
Actually this is a good point. Some people wonder why the GOP expels do much energy chasing phantom voter fraud when there is simply no path forward to Trump winning the 2020 election. I think the answer is to instill in all of their adherents the idea that the democrats cheated, with the goal of making Republicans more willing and open to cheating on behalf of their own party in the future. They want to create a culture that encourages extreme measures under the excuse that "well the other side does it too!"
Yep, and say both sides do it.
Even better, there isn't even any evidence.
Even even better, there's evidence Trump personally tried to get the SoS to say there were thousands of uncounted votes for Trump, thereby making many ballots for him get double counted or something along those lines.
But there's still time to look again. And again.
The lack of evidence is evidence of a cover up! —local nutjob.
republicans need a new talking point, like, was joe biden born in america?
was he REALLY friends with Corn-Pop from the community pool?
My favorite part about the whole Obama birther thing, was that it literally didn't even matter if he was born in America or not. His mother was an American citizen.
Didn't Trump already try saying he wasn't born were he said he was? In one if the presidential debates? That buffoon has no imagination
It is the stupidest cult.
At this point I'm convinced that none of his supporters even try to decipher his word salad, they just know to cheer at the buzzwords and go to OAN to find out what they're supposed to be pissed off about next.
I think many of his supporters simply don’t value logic or facts. They support him because they like what he says. They know he lies but that’s just something he needs to do to get other people to vote for him. The cheering is performative to help convince other people. I don’t think there is any other thought behind it.
It is taking advantage of people that are stupid or not paying attention.
Most of his supporters know he's full of shit half the time, but he gives them cover. So, they fein belief in whatever he says and we twist ourselves into pretzels trying to help them to see the truth. They know what the truth is by-and-large, but they don't care and have no interest in it bc the truth doesn't help their cause.
*couldn't care less
That quote demonstrates one of the more fascinating aspects of narcissism...they'll tell you right up front what they're doing and play it like a joke, which makes the less-savvy listener think that they don't mean what they're saying. (And attracts more-savvy less-scrupulous listeners like flies to rot.)
Why could they care less? Are you saying they actually do care a lot?
'No Proof' is all the proof they ever need.
"So you didn't find any evidence, but you're not saying there is none!"
Of course not.
And this is why their latest thing is “THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE VOTED ILLEGALLY - by maybe going to the wrong polling locations…?”
Wait, so they did the initial count, then the machine recount, then the hand recount? That means that, not only were ballots double-counted, they were triple-counted! And it wasn't just thousands, it was every single ballot!
The point was not to do this because they actually believed there was fraud. The point was to do this to keep their base (who did believe it) angry and energized.
Fake News! We all know Putin won the presidency. It’s a lizard person conspiracy and tomorrow Obama will take your guns and force you to be a Muslim!
I always knew that if Trump lost (in either 2016 or 2020), that his narcissistic monkey brain wouldn’t allow him to admit it. I knew he’d claim fraud and say he was cheated. That much I totally expected.
Didn't he claim fraud when his terrorist buddy, Ted Cruz beat him in some state during the primaries?
Remember what Michael Cohen said! He knew him better than most.
He also said in August 2020, “The only way I lose the election is rigging.”
He claimed fraud when he won outright so its an easy guess and in hindsight looks like it was done to prime the sheep for this
They all know it’s fake. They just don’t care and want to use it as an excuse to commit a coup.
It’s almost like the country resoundingly voted against a racist, self-absorbed conman all on our own.
Yeah but some of those folks sadly voted for him in 2016. Thankfully he really shot himself in the foot with the 2020 election and alienated a lot of folks who voted for him in 2016 and enraged enough folks who didn't vote in 2016 to vote against him in 2020.
Just like 2016 right?
Does it matter? No...
The sad thing is that I can debunk any particular claim of fraud to friends and family, and even when I explain the specifics of where they were misled in every case they can name, they still say "Well, nonetheless, I still feel like I hear about this sort of thing a lot so it must be true."
USA politics has become such a disgrace. Filled with lies, absurd conspiracy theories, and all powered by a straight disinformation news network to feed the idiotic minds of the minority.
How much money is being wasted on looking for election fraud? What a waste of time and resources.
Charged to the GOP and their generous suc... followers..
Given the history of projection we have seen from the GOP the last few years, I’m a bit surprised that we didn't find huge fraud for trump.
GOP: Gaslighting, Obfuscation, Projection.
Well the 200 odd double counted ballots that actually were found were for Trump 2 to 1. The hand recount removed that mistake and guess what? Biden still won!
I am so fucking sick of these headlines of disproving Republican bad faith voter fraud claims. What a fucking waste of time and money on so many levels. Fuck this stupid goddamn country
I mean…fuck 30% of these people. Only probably 5% of that 30% actually believe the bullshit. The rest are just playing along.
So many people hated Trump, why is it so hard to believe he lost?????
Trump gained votes over 2016. He beat Obama's record amount of votes. He has a large voter base that supports him.
I didn't even read the fact check, but a hand recount like they did in Georgia means that the following are absolutely not possible:
Are they seriously still beating their drum over this?
How many times has Trump lost the 2020 election now? +60 for the court cases, and tens of more times for the recounts… he’s going down in history as the losingest president.
For this claim, just remember: they are accusing that Biden Ballots were fed to the counting machines twice. The hand recount that was already conducted wouldve weeded this out. They are proposing a theory that we already have the data to prove otherwise.
They make claims without previously supporting evidence. They make a claim and expect everyone to prove them wrong.
I doesn't matter, republicans reality is so twisted that Politifact is considered left wing propaganda.
Anything that doesn’t fit their agenda is left wing propaganda. Doesn’t matter if it’s the truth
Wait! So the guy who was a horrible president and ran a horrible campaign and chickened out of a debate and lost the popular vote and electoral vote actually lost the 2020 election?
Why on earth did we allow a bunch of backwood cletuses to fuck w the AZ ballot process this long? This is a very bad precedent.
Republican cult stuff. No rational reason.
This is what happens when people are too freakin lazy to vote in off year elections, & they end up with a bunch of useless pos republicans runnings their state legislature. The states voters did this to themselves, AND to us for that matter. Thanks Arizona.
Oh my god are we going to entertain these clowns forever?
Do what we've always done to Stupid. Smile and ignore. Vote and change without their input.
Ah man, facts and reality strike again!
Word? But this came from a dude who could tell his cult the sun rises in the West and they'd 100% believe it (as the sun rises in the East).
And if there were, Trump would lose by twice as much right?
I see what you did there!
Not a great combination of title and thumbnail
Oh, thousands of un-expected ballots happened in Georgia?
GOP don't need no stinking proof! Doublespeak will find a way to make it true. It's just a thing that fascists do.
No Shit Sherlock. The election was overseen, reviewed and certified by Republicans.
It doesn't matter the lie is out their and it will always be fact Maga sheep.
It's impossible to prove something that doesn't exist, doesn't exist.
Trump to SoS, "I happen to know there thousands of uncounted votes for me"
and sadly it wont matter cause fox, newsmax, and OAN have already spent the almost last year publishing the headlines saying that there was and will never post a correction.
Liars, are being sued for billions...
Why are we still talking about this smh
As usual, no evidence.
Republicans could say anything here and sadly trump followers will believe.
Wow the gop lied. Big shock.
I'm amazed man. It's mid July and we are still talking about voter fraud. Bill Barr said it himself that was no evidence of voter fraud that changed the overcome of the election. Yet we still have people out believe that the election was stolen from Trump
Because Frump won’t stop saying it.
Trump's ego will never allow them to stop lying about it.
Hold up, my shocked face is around here somewhere…
This is a simple math of the demographics being against the GOP and they are manufacturing all kinds of bullshit to make it obvious that they can’t win a fair fight in elections and hence would like to employ voter suppression to give them an advantage or rather reduce their handicap.
Those that cared already knew republicans were full of shit and anyone that didn’t know will just claim it’s fake news or alternative facts.
And how exactly did they confirm this?
Oh, intercourse the ballots!
Hahaha delete this post because honestly Tucker Carlson will use it to justify is “VOTES COUNTED MORE THAN ONCE” headline
They counted the ballots 3 times...once by hand...and guess what all three counts matched...Trump lost all three times.
what a surprise
To the shock of no one other than morons
"We rate the claim False."
Stop writing about it
LOL Trump lost LOL
Of course not. They were TRIPLE counted! /s
I mean, do we even need this piece of news to confirm? Anyone still legitimately believes Trump wasn't just talking out of his ass?
And let's be honest. Who was running the election? If there were double-counted ballots, it would have been red ballots.
Of the 200ish double counted ballots less than a quarter went for Biden. So yeah they keep finding issues or fraud that helped Trump… I’m yet to see any real mistake or fraud that fell on the blue side of the ledger
Of course there’s no proof. Because Nothing. Happened. Trump if you’re listening, I hope you find those thousands of double counted ballots. Until then, STFU.
Oh man, I've never heard of this specifically, but it's an old problem. And it's exhausting.
The original story said around 200 ballots were scanned twice, but not included in the final count. This has somehow ballooned into thousands?
Anyone have a working link?
The link to the article doesn’t exist
So many lies spreading. Frightening
Now they need to be held accountable/liable for false accusations.
Every 60 seconds in Africa,
In Africa!!? I always thought the only interest the GQP had in Africa was a reliable source of cheap, or preferably, free labour!
Americans need to start discussing repubs as enemies of the democracy, period.
It seems that Republicans can't do an election with out a cheat in the vote. That's why they are trying to fix the next election in many state. I think the voting Republicans should tell their representatives to stop. It just makes them look worst.
This is pointless, it's like trying to convince religious people that god doesn't exist. It's not worth the time because they don't want to be proven wrong. You can show them all the evidence, or lack thereof in the world and it wouldn't be enough, they're too stupid.
The link is dead
What month is it that this shit is still being in question? In the immortal words of Mugatu: “I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!”
We all knew this was dtrumps planned big lie.
we have a clear pattern of Republican/right-wing lies that are designed to destroy America
They know, but that's not the point. They want to keep sowing distrust, they want to have it in the news constantly. This won't stop until the next election cycle begins, at whichever point they'll start warning about the fraud about to be committed.
more election bullshit from the republicans
cyber ninjas: "we have 77,000 early votes that we can't find absentee ballot requests for. these are fraudulent!"
Where’s all they conservatives upset because it was a waste of money?
There was a recount, so technically every ballot was counted twice.
And in today’s news water is wet.
Have you been hiding under a rock?
So they were double counted, then double counted in the first recount, then the second recount and the hand recount? No one noticed that his batch of ballots was counted twice four times?
No. There were only two recounts total, and they found a few double counted ballots before the second one (which was the hand recount) happened.
The media should be allowed to see how people voted just like they did in 2000 Election in Florida.
This is 10000% a bad idea. Employers knowing how their employees voted, schools knowing how certain students voted, people voting against the interests of their “head of household” (such as kids vs parents or wives vs husbands etc). All of these are severe breaches of privacy and could lead to discrimination or abuse. If your employer finds out you voted against the interest of the business, what’s to stop them from firing you? It’s not like they need to give a reason. If you go to a school that leans heavily one way politically, when they rest of the student body or even your professors find out you voted a certain way, that could create a bias, which you lead to unfair treatment. Or, in my opinion most importantly, if your family does not approve who you vote for, they may kick you out (I’ve seen it happen before), which forces people to either throw their lives away and vote who they actually want to vote for, or vote for who their PARENTS want, which skews the results heavily. In other words, peer pressure changes the way people vote. People need to be able to privately vote for whomever they want or the results aren’t really democratic, are they?
Fuck that shit. The secret ballot is sacrosanct.
There were mistakes that were corrected during the recount. Fulton County notoriously has issues simply based on its size. Mistakes aren't fraud, but it explains the reform.
Which of the new law changes will prevent the small number of mistakes in Fulton?
"Reform." Lol. Trump lost, therefore voter turnout must be crushed to make elections "fair" for conservatives.
This is just an abuse of scale. There will be mistakes in any election no matter how secure. It doesn't at all indicate that reform is needed - in Georgia's case, this was one of its best elections in decades, other than voter access issues... which are precisely the things being exacerbated by Republican measures.
Voter suppression explains the “reform”
Do you remember when Bush stole the election from Al gore /s
didn't right wingers
Yeah, I remember because he did.
Really Marty!!!! So shocking….That’s cuz trump lies….💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩
I mean the first sentence of the fake post is “why does it seem like errors only go one way”, then immediately proceeds to point out that 25% went the other way.
Did facts ever matter?
That there's no proof only shows how corrupt the system must be!
Who needs proof when you believe?
Exactly. For 30% of the population simply stating that there were is more than enough to make it so.
Really??????? I am not going to waste my time debating this...... total waste of time.
No voter fraud? Shocking after the million recounts & audits they/many places had
You’ll never convince anyone on the right of this. Everything is a conspiracy to them.
So I admit I suck at this, but is it hard for anyone else to look through these sources on politifact?
It doesn't matter to them if it's a false claim. They will seize on it anyways because in their mind it justifies their argument of win no matter how. Deep down they know they're a party of lying racist greedy cheating people but seizing on the lies and fabrications their propaganda sources feed them grants them a semblance of cover for their evil acts.
Plot twist. The manual recount was to remove all of the Republican double voting that was happening.
Can we countersue proportionately?
Didn't they recount like 3 times already? The gop is always with the projection. Get everyone angry about it now so they can do it later.