Is it just me, or is the DnD community rather... unfriendly?

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Orc_For_Brains

This can be true of a lot of communities that follow hobbies specifically, especially on the internet and, in my opinion, Reddit especially


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Mr_Grim_the_DM

Definitely the reddit community and internet community in general.


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CdrCosmonaut

Nothing like asking for clarification on a rules interaction over on


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Hopeful_Cranberry12

This exactly. 40k fans at the store near my house are mostly all really cool. Online, part of the fan base literally believe the over zealous nonsense the game has. It’s like the fans of fallout that unironically like the enclave, which is a thing.


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iroll20s

The more specific the community the more toxic gatekeeping bs it has.


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Andvari_Nidavellir

Facebook (aka the Abyss) says hello.


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CptJackal

Honestly I find reddit to be among the more helpful or rational sites, at least in the subs I follow. Is there another website you think is better?


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OrbEstCheval

I'm still baffled by the sheer number of people online who seem to sincerely identify as progressive/virtuous/etc, but are actually moderately antisocial hatemongers.


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Kirabani

Like a good friend of mine once said, «The nerds aren’t any less elitist, rude og bullying than the ‘normies’. If anything, they’re worse, because they think they have the right»


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Hypnotic_Toad

Pathofexile


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Stregen

This is definitely the case. Having been on


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Ask_Me_About_My_Pie

Critters and vegans on Reddit are not nice tbh


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HaileyBri

I've seen a few people say things like this now, and I have trouble agreeing entirely. I'm on these subreddits all the time, and while I do see exactly what you're talking about from time to time, it's a pretty clear minority. Every single post I ever go to seems to have people in the comments being encouraging and reminding people that d&d is about fun above all else.


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TheSunniestBro

Yeah, if anything, I've seen the opposite be more of a problem where people being overly nice end up causing more problems. For instance, if I make a post asking for advice on a thing involving my players, I'll get a ton of replies from people, whose hearts are in the right place, but end up wanting to be helpful in the least helpful way by just repeating what is always repeated ad nauseam on these subreddits day in and day out.


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LoneQuietus81

You're absolutely right. People are using confirmation bias to assign communities that wronged them as bad, toxic, etc. I've been in actual shithole bad communities. A few rude people don't make one.


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Squidmaster616

Ask for opinions, you're going to get all kinds of opinions, even the ones you don't like.


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RingtailRush

It's true I think the strongly opiniated are more likely to comment, resulting in the most prominent voices being. . . Abrasive.


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Celondor

Have you seen YouTube comments? The place where even a knitting tutorial will be full of hate and rants about specific groups?


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1ifeSentienceDeath

This, asking “what do you think” opens up a Reddit can of worms. I have to add that this is fun for a majority of Reddit users (starting internet arguments or trolling) and the more you fight back the more gas your throwing on the fire best to ignore these people as they also are at the whims of Reddit and probably won’t blow you up with criticism unless you give the space (replies) to do so, that is all.


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JARF01

I usually don’t interact with this sub a whole lot. Most people will ask a question about what to do as a player/dm. And then I look in the comments and someone says “talk it over with your group”. I don’t really feel like I have anything meaningful to add.


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Jared-Jams

Honestly they may as well retitle this sub


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fourscoreclown

Don't forget Facebook, thats the epitome of toxic opinions


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CptJackal

I'm genuinely curious how reddit is lowly ranked to you. What social network do you think is better?


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azureai

I don't think it's the "DND" community, but it is the nature of a large sub like


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piratepolo15

dmacademy


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mournthewolf

All the D&D subs are pretty bad. TTRPG communities have always had a problem with very toxic members. There was just a post earlier on DMAcademy talking about how toxic it is.


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[deleted]

Dmacademy has a very strong status quo about "the way things should be built". Theyre also pretty bad at giving feedback. Usually taking the stance most comparable to a shitty teacher or dejected parent. Very hierarchical, not very welcoming.


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MasterAnnatar

A vocal minority of the community is hyper toxic and think their way is the only way people are allowed to experience the game. But it is a minority. They're memorable because they're loud and mean. But they don't represent the majority of us.


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SnakeyesX

Unfortunately, since DND is a social hobby, even a minority of 10 or 5% can screw up a lot of games and a lot of people's first time playing.


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MattCDnD

I’ve been trying to make sense of it all day after furore on DMsAcademy. There was a poster who deleted their account because of abuse received in response to something that wasn’t even a hot topic (not that would excuse it anyway).


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Dumbledorkthegrey

100% agree. I've been trying to get into it and was quickly put off a few times by redditors. I asked for advice about a couple things and got real negative feedback by what seemed to be talented artists and DMs. After a couple more attempts I got some really solid and inclusive advice from people who just didn't have a massive online presence. After going on some adventures of my own I realized this exact thing. Just like any hobby it only takes a couple people, good or bad, to change your whole perspective! Still a newbie but I'm having fun with it!


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NotAnOunceOfChill

This tends to happen a lot in niche communities, especially ones where there are a lot of self identified "nerds." Nerds like this narrative where they are social outcasts who, despite being the underdog, have managed to carve out a place for themselves. These types of communities can be really gatekeepy when their thing gets more popular because it flies in the face of that narrative.


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Sudden-Reason3963

Mh, I don’t know. I think it actually depends on the context. After reading some posts I have noticed that some “topics” can quickly start some sort of flame war, usually those that include some “delicate” opinions over things that I won’t express here for obvious reasons.


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WaserWifle

Welcome to the internet. Most people don't care how others are inclined to play their game, but those people also aren't motivated to say so. So only the people who do give a shit reply to posts with their opinions thus giving the impression that the overwhelming majority of users are negative.


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Bone_Dice_in_Aspic

As a thirty-some years in player, I encounter a lot of prejudice about that on here. Unwarranted and inaccurate assumptions about my attitudes and politics are the norm just because... I'm not sure why? Because I've played a game for a long time? Because people tell telephone game stories about how things used to be that don't resemble how they actually were? I'm used to it and rarely bother to complain but it's pervasive and irritating.


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LucyShortForLucas

It’s something I’ve seen on quite a few posts now. The last one being a little earlier today, someone who posted art of their bard, who had a character along the lines of being shy, and a bunch of people went ballistic on how a bard that is shy when playing music is wrong and an incorrect way to play the game, while the OP didn’t ask anything but just shared a piece of art.


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SnakeyesX

It's not just the internet, lots of terrible people play DND, it just takes 1 nasty person ruin a game.


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DungeonMystic

RPGs are a refuge for a lot of men with poor social skills. They found a place here but feel insecure about anywhere they belong. So people doing things differently within their community are scary to them. If everyone starts doing things differently, they'll feel like outcasts again.


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MintChocolateCake

As long as everyone in the group is having fun, I don’t see why anybody outside of the group cares. Seems stupid to care about other people’s definition of fun.


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Iam-Locy

That's why OP doesn't understands why people feel like they have to share their own definition.


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b4wb4g138

My experience with the dnd community has been nothing but pleasant. When i started playing a few years ago and was still nervous about screwing up i found everyone to be really helpful and kind.


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JayRB42

When someone brings an issue to the Reddit table, they are looking for feedback and inviting disagreement. Some people are more…tactful…than others in their disagreement. That said, one cannot label an entire community as this or that; people are individuals. I have seen a pretty even mix of very supportive, neutral, and rude commentary. Some of the rude commentary was mostly just abrasive, not derogatory. Yes, there are also personal attacks (as with all social media), but they don’t form the majority here, not from my observations, anyway.


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sharrrper

I think DnD tends to be pretty friendly overall, but every community has its share of gatekeepers and they tend to be a lot noiser.


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iplaymarimba

I’m a new DM and one of my players said she wasn’t allowed to make an elf her last campaign? Like how do you not allow a race that’s in the PH?


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sabbdaddy

I did have to jump on this one in case this was legit (if it was /s, my apologies!). There are lots of times where DND is a collaborative storytelling at its finest, just with some rules in play agreed by all parties. The takeoff of things like Critical Role exemplify this. These stories don’t always fit as well for a DM if every race/class is permitted, so it’s pretty routine to limit based on the story being created. It’s easy to ban “by book” but that’s not often very clean. If you’re playing a campaign about war-torn short-race refugees, maybe elves didn’t fit. Maybe genasi or warforge fit a different campaign but good old humans don’t. “Everyone should be able to play any race/class any way” ends up being the opposite issue of “how to have fun right,” when really these dynamics should be set between player, table and DM at session 0 so everyone can have fun together in the world being created.


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WhySoFuriousGeorge

Because not every campaign setting has elves. And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.


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KairosVal

It's the combination of the social media + anonymity + special interest.


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abunchofsquirrels

Written communication can be tricky. Even assuming the audience is all fluent in the requisite language (which is already a bad assumption), so much of meaning is dependent on tone, cultural references, and other contextual clues that can be easily misunderstood. Of all the “mean” things written on Reddit, I’m sure that at least half were poorly-written jokes or otherwise not intended in an unfriendly manner.


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HoidBinder

I've got a 6 year old boy. He plays Paw Patrol and Dinosaurs with his friends. It's all in their heads, yet inevitably someone gets mad because someone else is "playing it wrong!" Did the same thing with Power Rangers and Pokemon when I was a kid.


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Sci-figuy31

Yeah but when you have people who have no social cues and then combine with rabid fandoms it can get nasty just because they should no better doesn’t mean they do


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TenForeWord

It’s just Reddit, where the elitists and unsocialized lurk. In my experiences with DnD in real life, people are way more chill, and also self aware of how dorky the whole thing is, it’s just light hearted storytelling with friends.


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marcus_gideon

On occasion, you will see someone going around criticizing for no other reason than they are a sad pathetic person who only derives joy from attempting to crush the spirits of others...


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VeelixTheSlayer

I feel like it's the same when people suggest "Well, have you tried Cyberpunk Red/Shadowrun?" when people come in asking how to homebrew 5e to be SciFi. Like, there are systems out there for it, USE them. You don't need to throw countless hours into a ramshackle homebrew when there are games out there that do exactly what you want. It's not because I don't want you to play 5th Edition, it's because the games we suggest do the concept you're looking for 1000 times better.


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0zzyb0y

I'm a pretty active member of a few groups mainly focused on DMing, and it's absolutely insane how often you get questions about things clearly explained in the DMG. Or people that try to "fix" parts of 5e without actually understanding the full rules or why they're a particular way.


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Collar-Worldly

The part of the DnD community that lives on Reddit is pretty bad, but that goes for most gaming communities. Most of them seem to care more about one upsmanship than being an actual part of a community. There is a reason they spend more time on Reddit than with their gaming group.


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RaceBread

Twitter is worse. Every hobby I’ve ever had in the last 5-6 years, I’ve discovered toxic hobby Twitter and had to mute words and block hashtags. Reddit is actually pretty good in comparison.


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BoutsofInsanity

Things also get lost in the text.


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[deleted]

I get this feeling all the time in all these DnD subreddits. Makes me grateful I'm not one of those poor souls searching for a group to play with.


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Yellowtail36

My guy, I guarantee you, the unfriendly ones are simply louder than the polite ones. Just have fun with whatever you do my dude


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AndewJ2802

As a long-time member of this sub and someone who loves D&D I have to say, i'm never going to upvote a "look at my character portrait!" ... I just don't care. It's not unfriendliness, it's that there are like 50x posts of those a day.


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mightierjake

At times, the community can 100% be overly bitter and hostile. I'm probably guilty of this myself, but I do try to acknowledge that and improve myself. It is a minority of the community, however, the vast majority of the community is positive and wholesome and I wouldn't want that to be spoiled by trolls or bitter users. I like to do my bit to improve the community by reporting users that I think are harassing others and not engaging with those who are only commenting to put others down or dismiss the fun of others.


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Tristawn

Hearing an opinion that isn't favorable isn't "unfriendly" especially when asking for advice or an opinion. This community does struggle to get along though, I'll admit. There's a really broad spectrum of how to play and "what's cool"


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SwarleymanGB

This Is more of an internet thing than a DnD thing. Every large enough fan-base in the internet and in reddit gets the same problem. IRL people are much more encouraging.


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SnakeyesX

Big disagree. Most dnd games are with friends, which is self selecting, pick up games on the other hand attract a lot of terrible people. If you have positive Pick up groups, great! but in my experience they have a 50% chance of just being terrible because of unfriendly people.


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sarded

Part of the issue is that because DnD is the most popular RPG for historical and marketing reasons, people think it's the 'anything RPG'.


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TheRedMaiden

It is the anything RPG though. Just because someone might have fun with a different game is no reason to abandon this one if they don't want to.


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Voltranis

You're having fun wrong, obviously...


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biensalope

a lot of poorly socialized, immature people play dnd. and as others have noted, this is reddit


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oppoqwerty

My guess is that many of the people who post a lot on DnD subs are people who don't actually play a lot but wish they did, and so are bitter about that.


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Skrungus69

Sadly theres a lotta toxic people in hobby communities, you have to be wary of them.


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ClockwerkHart

I feel it's because the game is...muddy when it comes to actually running or playing a game. And that's the point, everything is left open to interpretation. But that's also a problem because some people don't do well with ambiguities.


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Realistic_Effort

Wait! So you're saying a free online forum about something typically seen as nerdy (d&d) contains people with differing opinions?


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Anacus

"Having fun wrong" has been my biggest problem with DnD. I've seen players and GMs told that they are doing this and I have also been told, both as a player and GM - in all kinds of groups. I switched over to Pathfinder 1e/2e, Starfinder, Cyberpunk, WFRP.... lots of other games, not because I dislike DnD (I adore it) but because I find it easier to know what to expect and what to bring to the table in smaller communities. Hell, even in crunchier games that attract more "power gamers", I've been able to roll up to a game with a (really, REALLY) suboptimal character and haven't been told "that's wrong" once.


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Simarys

Not just on here. They are the same way in IRL. I found a long time DM whose rules include:


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LankyJ

I just get weirded out by all the super hot female characters everyone seems to play... and I'm sitting here playing an old granny bard.


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unonameless

The short answer is yes. The long answer is yeeeeeeaaaasssss 🥕🥕🥕


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WholesomeCommentOnly

Internet DnD is in all honesty not that friendly or wholesome or welcoming its full of gatekeeping, politics and nonsense.


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Ghieres

I think that's a byproduct of any community centered around a hobby, some people are just nasty and loud about it


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CrockBox

That's so funny you say this because someone said this to you when you were being cruel to someone else who wanted to modify some rules. It's kinda odd lol is it just me, or is the DnD community rather... Unfriendly?


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Dave37

If you just agree, you wouldn't really bother posting a comment, because there's nothing to discuss, you upvote and move on.


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EverChosen1

First time?


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green_tea11

i think that can be true with a lot of fandoms, like mha. a good part of our fandom is hot garbage but the rest of us are fine. the dnd fandom has some outliers that people tend to see and remember more than the sane ones.


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Dan-tastico

Its reddit lol, I've been offended by someone being so nice to me that I thought they were being sarcastic followed by an asshole who did not bother with using sarcasm to insult me lol.


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nihilisticmomfriend

So, my experience as a wamen in the online tabletop community is that most people are pretty friendly, but hooooo boy are there also a lot of toxic people.


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dfblack610

But don’t you know? Haven’t you heard? You can have fun if you’re not OpTiMizEd


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ManagementPlane5283

Shut the fuck up you dumb piece of shit!


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CountFapula102

I haven't noticed it at all really but people can be dicks. Can you give an example of this? All I've seen is suggestions to character builds and stuff but I'm fairly new to


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Spnwvr

Says DnD community is unfriendly.


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LucyShortForLucas

What do you mean?


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Sir-Jayke

Yup. Fucking nerds.


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CleverInnuendo

I will say it seems like I've never seen more downvotes in new than DnD subs. The daily check in is like:


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Golden-Frog-Time

It depends:


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Ragnar_Dragonfyre

You hit on a point that I’ve noticed since the beginning of the stellar rise of 5E that I never noticed in TTRPGs before D&D became mainstream in the past decade...


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nerdzen

Unfortunately there's a lot of gatekeeping exactly as you noted. There's also a good bit of combat mentality, and I think this is largely due to large swaths of the game being open to interpretation -- and, consequently, a lot of nitpicky things to fight over/feel superior about.


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Hatta00

I see people having spirited discussions on pros and cons. If you think that amounts to being told you're "having fun wrong", that's your own insecurity.


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TheRedMaiden

That's a helluva way to decide what they're talking about. You see spirited discussions, they see people being jerks. It's entirely possible the two of you are looking at entirely different posts and comment threads, because I can assure you that both kinds exist in this sub in spades.


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Apprehensive-Neat-68

I think thats just reddit dude. The culture that reddit tried to construct back in 2015 when they got rid of all the "mean" subreddits did three things


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Pure-Humor-8986

You can cram it with walnuts, ugly! JK ;)


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Puzzlehead-Engineer

I've yet to see such a thing in this subreddit.


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DevilOfVengeance

Don't let haters hate...every fandom will have that cunt that just thinks they know more and are better than everyone else. Block them...let them fester in their own toxicity. Have fun :)


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ConstructionNo8451

All dnd communities are unfriendly, because everyone has some reason why they're better, either there played longer or like to play differently. It's very toxic


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malakia717

OP, 100% correct.


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JohannJHVJ

Hm, interesting. I have so far found this community to be rather helpful and nice. Your experience seems to be quite different.


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Jesus_Wizard

Fuck you take my gold you bitch. Your opinions suck /s


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MileyMan1066

Thats a reddit problem.


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stonertboner

Counterpoint, what if they really are having fun wrong? /s


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GraceHollyMoon

My character is complex and has ideas that are wrong that I myself do not hold and a player in my group spent a month shit talking me and my dm online in echo-chambers, before sending me dozens of screenshots of people treating me like a monster. What they should have done instead is come to me and say "hey, I think maybe your character is insensitive" and I would have said "yeah, you're right, I'm sorry."


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BanjoStory

It's more that it's hyper-polarized, in my experience. It's got a really disproportionate amount of people that are either peak neckbeard capital G Gamers who are in it for the fantasy of just like being an open racist without consequences. Or, on the other end of the spectrum, there's a ton of the like genderqueer, xe/xer types who are in it for the fantasy of like... being in a society that isn't constantly questioning the validity of their identity.


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HippyDM

Maybe I have rose colored glasses or something, but I've only ever received kind advice from the d&d community as a whole. Sure, I see a few ass-hats here and they're, but they're always drowned out by the good peeps.


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BaconIsMyMiddleName

People. What a bunch of bastards!


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bacteria_boys

On this sub, in my experience, there is a lot more constant regurgitation of “let people have fun the way they want” than people actually claiming that others are having fun wrong. And most of the time, when I see a “let people have fun” comment, it’s in response to pretty much any opinion stated about the game, whether or not the opinion actually implies that someone else is having fun wrong. From my perspective, people in this community are just abnormally averse to any form of opinion about how anything could/should be and to anything that could be considered “negativity”, even if it’s constructive.


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Lord_Toademort

I haven't noticed anything


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newishdm

Opinions are like buttholes: everybody has one, and you probably have as much use for someone else’s as they have for yours.


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bamf1701

Yes, there are a lot of people like that. There are a bunch of content creators complaining about the same thing.


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Renago47

It’s the internet. Lots of courage and craziness. You can’t let it get under your skin. Be the shining example of what you hope to see in that community. It’s way more appealing anyway.


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appleye4

Like others have said this is not a problem specific to our community, that said D&D has a long history of some pretty shitty people involving themselves in the community,


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DeadMayne

Reddit is toxic. Didn't you get the memo?


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DickManning

I don’t mind seeing art and I’m not one to get angry in comments but I do really wish this sub toned down the amount of art that’s posted in it. I wanna read funny highlights of someone’s game or get ideas for running my own games. Hard to do that when sifting through SO MUCH art


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alchemy207

As a crossover community member with Warhammer, I can say yeah dork communities can be like that. The best part about D&D is that the it really is only your play group's opinions/voices that matter!


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Excellent-Guest-1082

Nothing ruins a table faster than worrying about the small stuff. People on reddit lowkey suck, you do you bro. I'm sure your friends at the table are having a good time.


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K1ssthecook

That is just human nature, especially humanity on an anonymous forum like Reddit. I am a knife collector, and it is the same with steel nerds, or brand fanboys.


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Clear_Lemon4950

It's funny, I'm always surprised by how nice and generous and helpful people are on most d&d subreddits. But then again maybe I've been hardened by much worse internet places.


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reality_mirage

If you try to engage with a community of hundreds of thousands of people, you're just more likely to run into crappy people. If you have 100,000 people, and 10% of them are assholes, that is still 10,000 people!


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TalShar

The community itself is great as a whole, but there's a not-insignificant population of people, mostly older players, who have tied their personalities up in their enjoyment of the game and take it as a personal attack whenever people enjoy it differently. Negativity bias is at play here; you're going to get a lot more comments from angry people than satisfied ones.


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unanimouslydefiant

I think a lot of people are just very passionate and opinionated when it comes to D&D, maybe take it a little too seriously time to time, so it comes off that way but theyre mostly unaware. Other times, some people are just d-bags lol unfortunately


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Hotbeebeebooboo9l9

I agree, I’ll just be telling stories about how some crazy thing happened in our game full of teens (like me) and then some 40 year old man will stroll up and be like “So this is incorrect, you’re supposed to play this way. Y’all broke this rule! You shouldn’t be having fun breaking rules!” Like dude chill, it’s our game and we play it like we wanna play it


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Rickdaninja

A youtuber named Treantmonk had a short bit in one of his videos about this. And keep in mind, this guy does optimization builds and things like that. I'll be paraphrasing a bit as I cant remember which vid it was in.


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Stradoverius

It's not quite that the community itself is unfriendly, it's just that the minority of assholes are loud and opinionated while most of the rest of us see a post, dont think we have much to add, and keep scrolling.


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DNRTannen

It's friendly enough, it's just a particularly opinionated, rabid fervent kind of friendly. I for one have quite heated rules discussions with our DM and we're great friends; without knowing the person on the other side of the debate it can run the risk of getting hostile.


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Angelus_Demens

Generally I find that negative and opinionated people are the people more willing to engage with the community -especially in D&D. So you always have a slew of those who will repeat what’s already been said because they feel THEY have to say it, or people who have misunderstood something and think they’re right and have to tell you you’re wrong about something, or people who don’t like X class/race/spell/archetype/anything and will tell you why, sometimes at great and tedious length.


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Entaris

It's kind of a law of humanity that every community, as a whole, becomes toxic when it reaches a certain critical mass. Once you reach that point you have to start drilling down and finding sub communities within the larger community that exemplify a particular group of people you are interested in communicating with.


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omega-falcon

Like with any community, the toxic tend to be incredibly loud and overpowering


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Successful_Yak_4677

It's not just you, and it's not just D&D players. Keep in mind, the word fan is derived from the word fanatic, and fanatics can be assholes.


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blueveard45555

Blame the internet, everyone I've met in this community has been really chill, open and friendly but much like how 4chan is filled with people like that, reddit is too. It's unfortunately the way things are, you get bad apples in every bunch, my recommendation is to move on to a new group if someone is mean or super rude, there are so many amazing people here


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Extroiergamer

It does happen...if you search some opinions on certain topics. There a "Right" ways to play it...my experience with real dnd is considerable less unfriendly as i see people reacting to it sometimes. Well this is one of the consequences of the internet.


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DnDObsessed

Always that one percent in every community. You may have just encountered that one percent. It’s sort of asking for it when you post ONLINE when people can unleash their true natures without compromise nor consequence, as well as those kinds of people - if not stopped - can actually take over a gaming store/hub and therefore make THAT the staple in the community.


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Carcharodonfan

There are gate keepers in every community, coupled with toxicity on the internet and voila.


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xxxtogxxx

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AtrytoneSedai

It’s Reddit, honestly. We’re a pretty cool bunch, otherwise, it’s just that this place attracts a certain type of argumentative, didactic, or overly critical person.


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GnarlyGerm

I honestly do not prefer the main D&D subreddit since it is jumbled with all kinds of canon and opinions. I go to Waterdeep DH sub more often, even if I am not running the module. I just prefer the community a bit more, but you are gonna get positive and negative feedback wherever you go. Just remember folks wanna share what made their games fun or not fun, do not take it to heart if someone disagrees or acts like a jerk.


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xxxtogxxx

people having fun is cool, as long as they aren't sacrificing someone else's fun in the process. i've experienced way to many "i do what i want" players that don't think that their character not doing any damage whatsoever isn't completely fucking over the party.


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JavierLoustaunau

The venn diagram of antisocial redditors and antisocial dnd players.


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Jepekula

Yes, and the reason is simple. D&D community is comprised of people. People are unfriendly, toxic and aggressive.


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Smaugthegolden4

Yeah, I'd advice to just stay away from such people and if a certain page or group has to many jusy don't interract. In the end it's all about enjoying your hobby, nobody needs extra assholes in their lives.


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Pristine-Sundae-2246

It's a lot easier for people to share their rude thoughts anonymously on the internet. I will say that while playing I haven't had any bad experiences.


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usgrant7977

No. You are wrong. One negative comment amongst dozens or hundreds does not constitute a community of bullys.


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Hereva

From what i've seen people here have basically Zero patience for newer players. They just say mean things like "Go read the book!" Instead of calmly explaining and trying to help. People also have no idea how deal with problems players or a DM causes, they need more communication. Also rules seem to always cause discussions, that wouldn't be a problem if they were dialogues but instead they are just fights.


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SnakeyesX

Nope, not just you. While DND itself is naturally empathetic, requiring you to put your feet in someone else's shoes, it also attracts the worst kind of people, those who take joy in making decisions for others and controlling their lives.


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Zardoz84

The only true correct way to play D&D or any other RPG, its when the players and the master have fun.


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performace-gardening

It would be nice to see character drawings that aren't deviant art wank bait more often. I see them all the time, downvote them and move on.


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aGiantmutantcrab

There are assholes in every community.


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missderpsy

Depends on the person, but I generally agree... I have a really good friend of mine who continually hates on my characters because I don't design my characters to be OP while that's his whole shtick... it's really rude and I told him to stop because this is how I enjoy playing DnD and he just keeps doing it and saying that I play it "wrong" -.- . It's a real stain or our friendship... Have another friend who says my campaigns are boring and too easy because his character doesn't die enough during campaigns (they're on the brink of death on the daily and the rest of the group hates it) - I've killed his character twice and he still complains. Nothings ever good enough...


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Danse-Lightyear

I actually see more people shitting on D&D 5e in general rather than specific players or play styles. Everyday I see a thread moaning about mechanics or just plain shitting on the system (which I always seem to disagree with on a mechanical level). It's really sad to see so much hate for outweighing the postivity that the game brings, its really disheartening given how much I owe to 5e for getting me into TTRPGs.


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Valuable-Lobster-197

Honestly the dnd tiktok community is surprisingly super welcoming


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piratejit

welcome to reddit


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funkyspirits

Fans kill their idols, idols corrupt their fans


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Parajurist

Laugh in Magic The Gathering toxicity


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TMan2DMax

The internet is a empty echo chamber of people who think they know best. It's taken me a long time to learn how to ignore the hive mind mentality that surrounds groups especially social areas like reddit. Small subs tend to be a lot more genuine and helpful but when they start getting to the main stream size where they are popular the quality drops very quickly. At that point it's best to avoid the comment sections and just enjoy the posts. I really don't play much DnD nor talk about it but I enjoy the meme builds people come up with and the cool art that pops up now and then. I keep the actual discussion for my group because they are the ones that matter not a bunch of people on the internet


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Seelengst

I haven't seen much real unfriendliness and I have arguments on here all the time.


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POKECHU020

Oh, trust me, every hobby is like this, the smaller the hobby the worse it is. I'd say it's mostly a problem with most positive things tend to be simple and it's harder to give advice (especially for D&D, which can be played in so many ways) than it is to try and "fix" something.


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Richer97

Thats what happen when a bunch of virgin man child try to gatekeep. Fuck em and be inclusive.


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StupidAuthentication

D&D is an interesting case; Ive been gaming for decades and D&D is one of the few games where the personality of the participants can be an absolute deal breaker.


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Nitr0b1az3r

welcome to online forums, yo :/ Thats just how it be unfortunately


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DragonDotRAR

This is literally the first post about or involving this sort of negativity I've seen in my reddit home feed so.....doubt.


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unlitlanterns

I’ll be honest, I really would like to get into D&D but I need newbies I guess. The established players I’ve known don’t have the patience to let you learn without being shitty and exasperated. Made me pull back and stop playing all together.


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[deleted]

Yeah I find there's a vocal base who believe they know the one true way to have fun.


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Raiden32

Can’t say I’m part of the community as I just started lurking, but take this very second..


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14FunctionImp

"...you've just made an enemy for life."


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Celestaria

This sub is pretty similar to other subs in that people here tend to hold similar beliefs. If you post something that aligns with those beliefs, you'll get tons of validation. If you disagree, you'll get downvotes.


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teketria

I think this a lack of understanding of the internet and psychology rather than the community. On the internet people will voice any opinion harsh or not while others usually upvote and leave. Similarly on the psychology part, negative things seem more prevalent only because when someone shouts louder than the ten other people who politely agreed with it. Quite often, especially on this sub, when experienced members of the community come to help out they usually are positive and helpful since they want to see the game and community flourish.


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orobouros

Well, you have a large group of people who just want to play a game and another large group that wants to make political statements with the game.


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mrsnowplow

In my experience people rarely want to help only to be heard.


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Paperyears

Someone told me to go die because I asked about rping a multiclass lol. Everyone else was pretty nice even if they did things different so it’s almost always just one asshole who ruins the fun


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Teko37

I don’t know man I think that’s a bad take, you should probably follow suit and use this to post optimal character builds and top tier content. Reddit isn’t built for wrong opinions. /s


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angrynewyawka

Nah, it's just Reddit. Also, the explosion in popularity bring in a ton of people, which means more assholes overall.


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moreat10

There are a lot of munchkins about. They even have a game made about them.


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Amateur-Alchemist

I see what you're saying and have been trying to


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fairyjars

Toxicity on the internet is a facet of the culture. People normally would not act like that irl because they have to deal with the repercussions of being mean to people. It's so much easier to dehumanize others online.


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SverdHerre

This is an oxymoron.


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thenewNFC

Fandoms are just rarely as healthy and inclusive as people want them be. And it's hard for people to admit because it's breaks the illusion that it's special when the reality is it's only ever going to be as special as YOU make it.


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lastcallface

Nerds man. We won. Our media is the dominant media now, our hobbies are widely accepted, and we still aren't happy. We are grasping defeat from the jaws of victory.


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winterfyre85

Just remember the main demographic of people who are Reddit users- they aren’t the majority of DND players but they are the loudest. When you’re on a forum that’s mostly teenagers/ young adults with a lot of free time on their hands with very aggressive options and little in the way of experience with social interaction it can really seem like the whole community it toxic- but it’s really not. In the many years I’ve played this game I’ve only encountered 1-2 toxic people who I would never want to talk to again. Online though- people feel it’s on to be a total asshole for little to no reason. Keep on being a positive person and giving real insight and encouragement to others and let’s change this!


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Americanpewdiepie

It’s not D&D, its reddit.


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Tempest029

Welp thats cause it is the internet and filled with a bunch of trolls, busy bodies and control freaks. Never take the internet at face value, it will drag you down to its level and beat you with nonsense and BS.


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CombatantWombatant

How I see it is D&D can be a rabbit hole. The more you know the higher the chance of feeling like “why do other people not know this by now?” Some people really just dive in so much into this hobby that they sometimes forget what makes D&D fun in the first place. Freedom. Perhaps they care more about the rules and recommendations and have lost sight of the game’s appeal.


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HunterMow

My dnd sphere has been very kind and accepting, bit yeah. Every community has it's monsters.


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shadowromantic

From what I've seen, the fandom is pretty chill and welcoming. That said, there'll be jerks in every community


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Broken_Beaker

Early in the pandemic I got back into D&D after 15+ years. In surfing thru social media I was flabbergasted with the amount of hate. I see more on Twitter than Reddit, but is a bit all over. It’s kinda shocking given the nature of a game that is largely played in the theater of the mind while imagining all sorts of fantastical creatures. “You can be a half dragon Druid that talks to trees, but don’t even think of that gay stuff!!” WTF people??


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DeficitDragons

That’s mostly just reddit.


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Infynis

I mostly just see people comparing things to similar characters they've played


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-VizualEyez

A lot of the time it's those whose whole identity revolves around their main hobby.


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ABrokeHoodrat

This is why we started our Dungeons & Dummies show with guys who've never player before. I agree overall this community can be... Less than welcomeing at times and showing new players that this game can be fun, and accepting no matter how new you are at TTRPGs is important for the growth and long term sustainability of the community we all love so much.


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RelentlessRogue

Simply put, the dumbest people are usually the loudest in any given community.